Courtly love is paradoxically based on the affirmation of a negative experience: repudiation and renunciation are interpreted as means of sublimation. But this structure is different from felix culpa, for there is no element of guilt. Only if compared with religious Caritas courtly love becomes a problem. In 138,17 Morungen on the one hand sharpens the conflict between worldly and religious order, a spiritualized minne being an even greater challenge to the latter, but what seems to be sin seen from one point of view could, seen from the opposite side, be a condition of future fame and an object of envy: culpa, but probably felix culpa.