We consider possible mechanical masses that could appear in supersymmetry, other than by direct Higgs coupling to fermions and we speculate that the existence of such a type of mass would allow one to have the Higgs mass of the u quark zero, and the Higgs mass of the d quark (at 1 GeV) of 1to2MeV, thus solving at the same time the strong CP problem and arranging the grand unification predictionm μ /m e =m s , H i g g s /m d , H i g g s .One possible mechanism for this is related to, but not identical with the quark condensate. Here a mass is generated which is the same for all quarks, and which adds to the Higgs type mass. Unfortunately, the numerical value of the generated mas falls short of the desired value (some 5 MeV) by orders of magnitude.An alternate mechanism, through Higgs-induced left-right couplings in the squark sector may produce masses of the correct order of magnitude if the mixing angles are diferent in the squark and quark sectors. To get the desired result for the u quark mass, we need a stop component mixing of 120 for the LR u squark coupling, so the strong CP problem may still be solved. For the d mass, this mechanism is not really sufficient to solve the grand unification mass ratio problem.