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The article presents interviews with two influential art historians who both plead for rewriting or at least deconstructing modernity, in their eyes a problematic project. The search for contents under a common situation of 'pluralism' might be the common denominator of the interviews that coincide from their different positioning - Kuspit nearer to the symbolic dmension and Danto from the defense of the interpretation as a way of meaning - in an ethical conception of art criticism.
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